December 22, 2008

  • There’s a difference between preference and prejudice

    I wasn’t planning on writing another post so soon, but I feel the urge to write this after reading so many blatantly racist comments being made on Theif’s Datingish post

    Personally, I don’t have as big of a problem with the post itself.  Reading through it, I thought the post was funny and that Theif has her heart in the right place, but perhaps the execution could have been a bit better.  I’m glad she pointed out that there are indeed normal Asian guys who are many good adjectives and I can understand how her experiences have made her think a lot of Asian guys lack initiative or what not. 

    However, correlation does not imply causation, and that’s where I think the post could have been improved on.  Are there timid Asian guys?  Yes there are, but there are also timid Black guys, White guys, Hispanic guys, etc.  Asian guys come in many shape and sizes as well.  Just because you’ve met a few Asian guys that are timid and not confident does not mean the next few Asian guys you meet will be the same.  There are so many factors that plays a part in determining a person’s character.

    I went to UMBC, which is one of the most diverse colleges in the nation (there’s a reason why people joke around that UMBC stands for “U Must Be Chinese” ).  Trust me, I’ve seen a whole variety of characters within different races and I find it extremely hard to characterize one race as always having certain traits.  Gentlemen and assholes exists in every race and ethnicity, and you’re only fooling yourself if you think one race has more of one type over another.

    So like I said, the OP didn’t bother me so much as a lot of the comments I saw.  I would cringe each time I came across a comment that pretty much says “Asian guys suck.  White guys are so much better which is why I only date them”.  When you make a comment like that, you are basically saying that one group of men is inferior to another group of men based on their race.  Yeah, that’s literally the definition of racism right there.

    Imagine this.  Let say you heard on the news that some employer was not hiring Asian people in public relations because they believe they are way too timid to do the job well.  Their defense is that in their past, they were friends with Asian folks that happen to be shy, so they conclude most Asian people were like that.  Thus, they only hire White people for public relations because they believe they are more confident in general and in turn will do a better job.  What would be your opinion of this employer?

    Now I can understand if you have a preference for dating one race over another, just as long as you don’t completely exclude an entire group based on stereotypes of one’s race.  For example, I find that I prefer dating White and Asian girls.  That being said, I would not mind dating say a Black or Hispanic girl.  All that can be said of my preference is that I have the tendency to go for White or Asian girls more often.   However, if a fine, confident, funny girl comes into my life then race would be the least of my factors for determining whether or not I want to date her. 

    Conclusion.  If you’re not already, please start judging the merits of a person on a case-by-case basic and do not judge an entire race of people based on preconceived generalizations.  Stereotypes are just that, stereotypes.  Correlation does not imply causation.  Keep an open mind and don’t assume personality traits based on one’s race.  Lets make this world a happier place

    P.S. I highly recommend checking out franksabunch’s post “It sucks to be an Asian guy.  Well, if you believe everything you read“, which was one of my main inspiration to write this post.  He practically said all the things that were needed to be said.  I just wanted to add a bit of my take on this issue.

Comments (54)

  • i think Theif did not mean to be racist too…i thought it was really kinda funny post..with the pics and stuff….

    and i totally agree  with ur correlation does not imply causation thing….

  • @s_h_a_sha - 

    Yea, I’m sure her intentions wasn’t to be racist. I enjoyed reading through her post for what it was. I just wish there weren’t so many blatantly prejudice comments being made by people X_X

  • I agree with you. For example, I PREFER Asian guys but I’m open to other races as well… just like you are with Asian and White. So yay! :D People are nubs for being predjudice… like when I wrote that one post about how I adore Asian guys? teehee! *hugs*

  • @pretendX - 

    Ah yes, I remember that post! Good stuff

  • I like that thing about UMBC (: But I don’t even know what that is supposed to stand for. Am not really familiar with the U.S. Schools.

    I can only go for Taiwanese, Chinese (mainland), HK, Japanese, and maybe Korean girls. Not because I’m racist, but because my parents would disown me otherwise :(

  • @AzureRecollections - 

    Don’t worry, not too many people know what UMBC stands for yet haha. It’s still a relatively new college, but it’s getting more and more well known. It stands for University of Maryland, Baltimore County.

  • i hate racists and also people who stereotype.. it’s just umm… blind. You know what? The white Aussie throw eggs at us, asians. It’s heaps barbaric.

  • @darth_cosmos - 

    Wait they throw eggs? Do you mean that literally?

  • Right ON!!!!! =)

  • even if the guy is not timid, if there is already this perception that he is, then well…people just end up ignoring him altogether….

    plus…everyone has their moments.  we’re human, we’re not all designed like robots to act the same under every situation:P

    i totally agree that yeah that some asian guys can’t get girls…..but not all of them are like that:P

  • I read that post the other day, and I felt the same way. I felt the post started out funny, but kind of fell apart towards the end, and left it open for the comments to be racist, although that may not have been the intention.

    I grew up in areas where Asians were a majority, and the range in looks and personality is so much greater than most people want to believe.

    It frustrates me when races are placed into a box like that. These preconceived notions may actually end up stopping you from meeting the perfect partner.

  • @Roadlesstaken - no lol they really throw eggs at us. The barbarians almost hit my friend and i, and it freaked us out. the culprits put eggs in their cars so that they can hit asians whenever they want. How convenient =S.  

  • Yeah, I was a little miffed about how that article boiled down one sex of a race to all have the same characteristics. Stereotypes are dangerous, dangerous things. Good post!

  • I’m suprised that racism is still running rampid. I mean I can’t even work at my job or going shopping without people judging me just because of my race, like i’m a freak.It’s amazing that people can feel no remorse after making such disgusting and rude comments.When a person of importance comes to my job, they don’t even look at me. they look at everyone else in my dept., who happen to be white & italian(no offense to anyone) like I don’t deserve to be there. I try saying hello but they just look at me,walk away and converse with everyone else. I still feel like crap to this day because of this : (

  • The world should be colorblind.

  • @sabbygurl - 

    Exactly my point! I don’t want girls to be thinking I’m some weakling just because they notice I am Asian. People deserve better than that.

  • @amzism - 

    I couldn’t have said it better myself. You are perhaps sabotaging yourself by denouncing an entire race as being bad. You’re someone may very well come from that group of people.

  • @darth_cosmos - 

    WTF?!! That’s horrible! Have people ever tried stopping those things from happening, or is it so common that people just accept it?

  • @TheCheshireGrins - 

    Yea, like I said I understand the intention of the OP but by singling out Asian guys it really reinforces the lame stereotypes. I really hope articles like frankabunch’s post gets out to more users.

  • @AubbySilver - 

    That would be ideal wouldn’t it? Ah but alas…

  • @applebottomjeans08 - 

    I remember you writing something about the racism in your parts. It really sucks how ignorant some people will be. The best we can do is try to educate as many people as we can.

  • Xanga has pretty much jumped the shark after that posting.

  • lol my brother is living proof that not all asians are quiet and shy…. just ask the SCHOOL.

  • @Lesonja - 

    haha you’re gonna have to clarify. Which school?

  • @Roadlesstaken - i guess we all just accept it since we cannot do anything =( … a friend of mine reported to the police, but the police asked her to forget about it.

  • 1. it wasn’t the kinda networking connections i wanted….i would be working for my bf’s brother in law…which is like…a pity job…in my view…like..”here, ill hire you to do this since you’re unemployed”..ya know?…i dont mind getting a job through networking…like….having someone introduce me to someone and ill get hired if i qualified…here its just like accepting ppl shoving money in my face as if i can’t make it on my own. ya feel me?! lol

    2. so i kinda skimmed your post..lol..my lazy self..& i feel that..men of certain races seem to …stand out as being assholes & perverts moreso than others which makes people feel like..that race is inferior….like…personally..hispanic men totally turn me off…because of the ones i’ve come in contact wtih…90% of them are assholes that have no business shouting perverted spanish comments in my face..but then again..and its those men that makes the whole race seem like asses to me…but you’re right…you shouldnt judge..its just hard to NOT judge when you’ve met so many asses from one race..ya know? but thats not to say im not willing to get to know a hispanic man..as long as he doesn’t give me the impression that he’s a pervert when i first see him…if he speaks normal like any other man of any other race..then he’s normal in my eyes and race is not a big deal anymore….

    on that same note..i met one today that i totally wanted to punch in the face..i was getting dinner @ some place in the mall and he totally kept winking @ me and calling me baby and honey ..”okay baby, here’s a bag for you” & trying to make physical contact with me through the counter….ugh! see..its THOSE men that maeks the entire race look bad.
    lol.. i hope i dont start getting hatemails now..haha

    that was a LONG comment..i should stop now. i ramble too much.lol

  • WELL DONE! *applause*

  • Re: on your comment

    I hope you get the internship!!!

    good points you make on this post.

  • @glimpseh2o - 

    Hmm, which internship? Do you mean graduate school?

  • I agree. It is so sad that people tend to place others in certain categories and stereotype. Whether it be intentional or not, it is still sad.

  • It’s Christmas Alex! Merry Christmas (click for link)! Happy blogging in the New Year : )

  • @kaiori - 

    Haha very nice picture. Merry Christmas to you too! Is your last name Tse? That’s my mom’s maiden last name!

  • “corellation does not imply causation.”

    psychology sentence :] I remember learning about that in my 3rd lecture in psych 121. We ended up in a very long discussion on race and number of sexual partners XD

  • @h0peLeSs_RoMaNtiC - 

    It really does suck. I think that when people do that too much, a self-fulfilling prophecy starts happening when a person starts believing the stereotypes themselves. Ah they need to go away!

  • @indiechaos - 

    Haha I was waiting for someone to catch that . Number of sexual partners what? Explain!

  • @Roadlesstaken - Haha we were debating whether being a black male meant you’d have more sexual partners versus if you were a white male, asian male etc. :]

  • Mmm just any internship will do. Just for experience and of course, it might lead you in getting a job.

  • @glimpseh2o - 

    Ah yes, eventually I wanna look for a part-time internship so I can get some experience in the field I’m planning on studying. Hopefully I can find one in this economy X_X

  • @Roadlesstaken - 

    worse comes to worse, get a non-paid internship just for experience. looks good on resume, la! Merry Christmas + Happy Holidays!

  • @Roadlesstaken - 

    I am hispanic. In my area there are plenty of hispanics who “just crossed the boarder.” They are probably the nicest, most hardworking people I have ever met.

  • @B1ANCACACA - 

    Ah I knew right after I wrote that message it wasn’t worded in the best possible way -_- . Sorry if I offended you. I would have to agree that most of them are just fine hardworking people. When I wrote that previous comment, I was trying to say something like more recent immigrant types may be more prone to whistling at girls and w/e because it’s more common where they’re from. I’ll just go remove it because of how poorly worded it was.

  • I really liked this post. I get tired of people saying stupid things to me because I have dated so many different kinds of people. It just comes down to ignorance. I get all these questions about what it’s like to date/sleep with Asian men! I usually just tell them it’s like dating or sleeping with anyone else. People are individuals! They like to joke around about stereotypes too and I like to nip that in the bud because I really don’t find it amusing…at all.

  • @BrandNubian - 

    Good, the world could benefit from having more girls thinking like you! How many Asian guys have you dated?

  • @Roadlesstaken - Hmmm let’s see…there have been too many to count! lol I have dated so many Asian or half Asian men…ummm I would say that there were probably ….Korean, Chinese, half Korean/half Chinese, Vietnamese, half Korean/Half Black(2), as well as 2 guys who are Pacific Islander…Filipino. So yeah…I’ve been given a hard time a lot about my love of all things Asian. ( And I do mean ALL THINGS) So that doesn’t count all the yummy Asian men I admired from afar and never got the chance to date! lol. As a matter of fact, YOU better watch out Mr.RoadLessTaken!!! Wait…*looking around* if you aren’t single I’m sorry!

  • @BrandNubian - 

    haha wow, you really got the Asian experience haven’t you? Haha alright, I’ll be sure to watch out for you then (p.s. I’m still single unfortunately)

  • @Roadlesstaken - There is nothing I love more than a man who says things like ” I’m still single unfortunately” instead of ” Woohoo! I’m single!”.  Oh I was wrong, an ASIAN man who says it is even better!   Sir…!

  • @Roadlesstaken- Alief Taylor, at the time my geography teacher also had my little brother in her advisory class, after 3 days she came up to me and… “you brother is crazy….get him help.” “yes….yes he is. but there is no cure for crazy.” ;)

    lets just say he thought it was a good idea to uhhhh give “birth” to his backpack several times in the middle of the cafeteria at 7 in the morning lol. and again during advisory… yea… that was just the beginning…lol. i think she retired…

  • @Lesonja - 

    haha awesome. How old is be? Wonder what he’s been watching when he did that =P

  • @Roadlesstaken- ha he was 15 lol

  • wow, you’ve taken everything that I was thinking (wel, almost) while reading that post and wrote it out on here. I think my brother (who was obviously very offended by the other post) would feel much better after reading this ^~^

  • @purest_of_rain - 

    Thanks. Out of curiosity, what did I leave out that you would have said?

    p.s. Thanks for writing this comment again . I don’t know why I was so clumsy earlier.

  • @Roadlesstaken-

    Well, I was also thinking of some of the asian guys that I once have a crush on and how some of the descriptions about asian men were completely the opposite of those guys. So I really redoubt that you were thinking of how much you like asian men as you wrote this blog,lol (um, right?).

  • Haha ah gotcha. Yea, that wasn’t exactly what I had in mind =P

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