July 1, 2013

  • Q&A with @John from @TheXangaTeam

    I had a good hour and a half talk with CEO John about Xanga, the fundraiser, and Xanga 2.0.  For those that missed the live show, you can catch the recorded broadcast by clicking here.  @SaintVI was able to write up a simple transcript during the show and have given me permission to post it up on my page.  Take a look below, and if you want more details you can listen into the show on demand.

    As mentioned on the show, I will be on hiatus for the next week while I’m visiting San Francisco for this 4th of July holiday week.  I will be back with a new show on Monday, July 8th.  For more info on the upcoming shows, click here.  FYI, I will likely schedule at least one more show with John before July 15th, so stay tuned for future updates on that!
    Transcript of the Interview with John, CEO of Xanga

    A: How many are still on the Xanga Team?

    J: Tries to run it friendly, less corporately. John, Justin,Eugenia, Marc, Bob, Dan

    A: Interns?

    J: Yes. That will be a bigger focus in the future.

    A: Why has the communication not been greater communication leading up to the fundraiser?

    J: Overall been overwhelmed with programming.. Big update coming up soon on blog regarding Xanga 2.0, which the team will start communicating and promoting more once that is out.

    A: Why does XT want site to continue?

    J: Not money – not lucrative. Labor of love.  Loves xanga, met many friends through xanga. Strong community and can grow the website around it. Wants to continue to honor and serve the community.

    A: Why do you think we’ll meet the 60k goal?

    J: Response has been amazing. No reason to give beyond $48,but many are giving much more. Shows that people really love the xanga platform. Lots of things we can continue to do to support the fundraiser.Coordinating press and member mailings for next couple of weeks. Expect it to pick up at the end.

    A: Have you reached out to outside groups/sponsors to raise money?

    J: Of course. Many have donated. Others will be contributing in coming weeks. A lot of money will come from lowering expenses.

    A: Why such short notice for the deadline?

    J: Didn’t think of it far in advance. Looked into the feasibility before announcing it. Started site in 2000. Many decisions based on technology they had available at the beginning. This is like starting a new company with technology that will hold up for the future. New cost structure will be more cost effective.

    A: Why no mass messages yet?

    J: We’re going to be sending out messages. Have gotten a lot of questions and working on answering them before sending the message out. More effective to communicate as much as possible in one message. This week. 35-40 million members over the years. Email addresses change. If email everyone,surefire way to get all email blocked by every carrier. Would be last email sent in company history.

    A: Why not mass message on website?

    J: It would be a little tricky due to number of possible replies. Currently shut off private messages on team blog. Maybe send out MM with link to XT blog for replies.

    A: If xanga does not raise money by deadline will it be pushed back?

    J: Deadline is hard coded in software. Can’t ask Kickstarter to give more time. Confident we’re on track to meet goals.

    A: Many Xanga users trying to rally the troops to promote the fundraiser. How do you feel about their efforts?

    J: And RLT’s radio show! This is why we keep doing what we’re doing. It’s been an incredible outpouring of love and support. Very heartwarming and reaffirming.

    A: Are there plans for XT to be more directly involved with communication?

    J: Sure. We can stick modules on the front page to promote it more.

    A: What did you mean by viral marketing on your announcement post?

    J: I’d rather talk more about vision of xanga first and then come back to marketing. Taking WP platform and adapting it for xanga. Xanga is community coming together and reacting in a seamless way. Not been our focus to be highest rated publishing platform. Working on adapting WP platform to be more community friendly. That’s been the main focus of our work. Most platforms focused on publishing and not interaction with readers. On xanga we’re all equals, all participants in site together. Would love to weave this into WP ina seamless way like xanga. Wants to get the best of WP with the small town feel of xanga making it as community friendly as possible. Logistically 60 Emotionally 99.9% of vision. Met my wife through reading her blog. Get to know each other by reading and interacting. Creating software that enables this interaction is important to him.

    A: With Xanga 2.0 being a paid site and many people not wanting to pay, how would you sell it to these people?

    J: Would prefer to keep the platform free. Kept it free fora dozen years, but can’t offer a sustainable model for free. If we can blow these numbers out of the water, we will take another look at the possibility.Grandfathering all Premium sites so still be able to read and comment. A lot of what we want to do is simplify the site. Ex: Difference between Friends and Subscriptions. Subscriptions is one-way. Friendship is two-way. Looking to clarify small differences like that. Focus on ease of use and simplicity. Also supporting many privacy features. Not many platforms left on web that support privacy. Ex: Facebook. Privacy doesn’t have to be either/or. Want to continue with features we offer and add more.

    A: Clarify which accounts are automatically transferred.

    J: Focusing on bringing over all Premium members. Also going to take over all accounts that have been Premium at one time. It will be a lot of work to transfer accounts over. All user accounts will be transferred even if blog doesn’t transfer. Users can still log in, read their subs and comment.

    A: What about the True members?

    J: We can look into whether we can support that. It’s a question of numbers; how many we can transfer over. We want to move over as many as possible.

    A: There may be people who decide they want to continue on xanga after July 15. Will they have lost all their entries or will their old blog still be somewhere?

    J: Have they ever been a Premium member? First we’re going to move over the current Premium members. Then we’ll move over those who have been Premium in the past. Then we’ll get as many transferred as possible.Others can download their archives in the XML format and transfer them.

    A: If xanga reaches the goal, how soon will the new site beup and running?

    J: We’ll see. Technically we’re hard at work and have a lot of stuff ready to go. We’ll know more in a couple of days but we’re hoping within a couple of days after the 15th. We’ll keep the xanga site up and running if there’s a lag.

    A: Can you clarify what will happen to Lifetime members?

    J: I don’t know how much more I can say. If you’re a Lifetime member, you are a Premium member and we’ll transfer your account and transfer your account to the new system and will honor your account at a lower rate.

    A: If someone has a WP username will it interfere with thexanga 2.0 platform?

    J: No. We’ll be using the WP code base but no overlap with screen names.

    A: Xanga HK is still pretty popular. How are they affected?

    J: We’re all in this together. I can’t tell when someone pledges what country they’re from but seeing a huge number of Chinese names.They’re in it with us and have been very supportive.

    A: How many paying members will it take to keep xanga 2.0 operational for a year?

    J: It’s tricky. Fundraisers are different than running youraverage premium model. Need many more Premium members than fundraisingparticipants. Most of the fundraiser is coming from a few people. Still inexperimentation stage at how to support the site.

    A: Would it be possible for some people to pay a fee to keep their content online without paying for Premium?

    J: We could look at adding more reward levels and include that. We want to offer all members a free and easy archive download. We’ll consider this, but don’t want to give out the vibe that we’re holding your data hostage.

    A: How about giving people a 1-2 month free preview of the new site? Or giving other incentives?

    J: We want to move as many blogs over as possible. I don’t see charging to move blogs over as being much in the fundraiser. The best way to ensure is to contribute to the fundraiser. We’re looking to charge people to host their blogs, not everyone who wants to read and comment.

    A: But how do you plan to attract people to the new platform?

    J: Referral programs would be a part of drawing people into the platform.

    A: Is there a way to allow people to access the top featured posts of all time on xanga?

    J: Would we be transferring just one post that was written in 2007 and not the person’s entire blog?

    A: We just want to be able to find the top posts.

    J: If there are specific sites for the sake of xanga posterity that need to be imported, we would look at doing that. One of the tricky things about featured content is that it’s what is popular on that day.If you go back a couple of months later, you might find that those posts have been taken down, made private,  friends locked, blog shut down, etc. It’s not an easy thing. But if you make a list we’ll see what we can do.

    A: What are some of your marketing ideas?

    J: The viral marketing stuff is giving people a chance to look up their account to see if it’s scheduled for transition. It will provide a simple interface to see if your xanga will live or die, if you’re ready for 2.0. People can interact with it and help get the word out. Press is going to be important to complement that, to reach out to former member for whom we don’t have an email address.

    A: Is there anything the community can do to help the XT out further than what they’ve already done?

    J: Yes. We’ve been focused so much on the fundraiser and making sure we can make the goal and do the transition, those have been crushing amount of work. Moving forward we’d like to make it much more participatory. Next big piece is how are we going to manage this website? In past it’s been me and a couple of other people running the site and making decisions. Not open source, only a couple of people understood how the site works. The new architecture of the site will be much more open and adaptable.We’ll be creating a group of “councils” for different areas. Ex: Finding themes, front page design… Series of community driven councils to get vision from users. We want to tap the community’s vision and energy to build the new site.

    A: What are some of your major memories of the xanga site?

    J: I met my wife on xanga. That’s my number one in terms of impact. I’ve met hundreds of xanga members and had all sorts of conversations and taken them out for lunch or drinks, and then the next day you read about it. It takes some of the fun out of being involved in the community because all sorts of drama was flaring up when I hung out with xangans so I’ve been distant in the past couple of years. The idea that people have met and fallen in love on xanga and we’ve brought them together in marriage blows my mind. On the flipside, there’s been a lot of xanga divorces too. Being part of the community and seeing these things go back and forth has been very rewarding and fun. It’s been a really emotional experience for me. So much love and so many friendship shave come out of the site.

    A: Are there any last words you’d like to say before theshow ends?

    J: I’d like to say thank you. Xanga is nothing without community. The fact that you all take care of each other is great and it’s why we want to keep it going. We’re very grateful to have met so many of you over the years that have kept the site going. Thanks guys.

Comments (43)

  • That was a great interview.

  • Good information. Not seeing too much on security (only friends can post comments & moderated comments). While it’s clear only paying members can blog (with a possible exception of a 3-day trial for new people) it’s not clear WHO all can post comments and private messages or create new 30-day ‘evaluation’ accounts for the sole purpose of harassment.

    That information will be pinnacle to me and I know a few others. Poor security as current Xanga has right now will once again invite spammers and trolls.

  • Your best show to date.

  • Great interview. Let’s reach that goal.

  • That was an amazing interview and thank you to @saintvi for transcribing it. He was funny. It made me laugh when he got distracted by the chatroom. 

  • That was a good show.  I don’t have Premium and even though I pledged, I think my content won’t be migrated over.  I may have to perform some animal sacrifices as I’m sure I’ll mess things up if I did it myself.  

  • @ElusiveWords - have you had premium before? It should migrate over then. However, since you pledge that should also cover you too.

  • @Roadlesstaken - no I haven’t had Premium.  John didn’t specifically say (or maybe I missed it) that people who pledged will have their content moved over too.  I’ll have to check it again. 
    Enjoy your vacation Alex!

  • @ElusiveWords - You will only need one month of Premium so a chipmunk should cover it. I’ll donate one from our yard.

  • This is fantastic! I’ve had the pleasure of speaking to John on the phone when they were interviewing people for the Xanga Council. He’s a great guy.

  • The interview made me very excited for Xanga 2.0 I feel like he wants us to go write posts about what we want Xanga to become so I will probably go back and listen to the interview again and do that :D It was really, really good to hear him talk about Xanga that way. I think it was funny when he said we all imagine him running Xanga from his basement LOL Kinda what I thought xD I am happy and really made me tear up at the very end. Well done, Alex :D  

  • Wow. Such a powerful and moving interview. It brought out the emotions in me, and really made me think I do not want to see Xanga come to an end!! I know I have been a little AWOL (like many others) in the last year or so, but so many friendships were forged in the last 10 years–there is no other community like this :(

  • logistics and technical details still sound shaky. I dont have much hope that the goal will be met in time looking at the rate of donations. Hope Im wrong though.

  • Alex, thank you very much for doing these shows and particularly for getting John on and asking him these questions. Very useful information. @SaintVI – THANK YOU for capturing the transcript.

    My takeaway is that there are still many unanswered questions but one thing is for certain: if we don’t reach the goal, everything goes away.

  • Thanks for the transcript. I still intend to listen, but this was much quicker to read and gave me an idea of what everyone is talking about.

    I’ve never been Premium but I have pledged money and I intend to stick around after July 15th. Should I buy Premium NOW so my blog gets transferred? Is that a good idea?

  • Thanks for the interview, and to @SaintVI for her transcription.

  • It was an excellent interview, and should provide a bump in pledges.  Thank you!

  • Bravo sir! The interview was really great and I think it’s awesome that John opened up. I’m listening to this at work right now, as soon as I see the next XangaTeam update I’ll be donating. If you ever need the first Miss XangAmerica on for an interview I can help.

  • Thank you Alex for your hard work and for the transcript :)  

  • Really happy to hear John’s vision and his passion. I pledged. :)

  • explain this to me…..why the F does this get fully funded and XANGA IS STIL $29,900 SHORT? this is all meaningless……
    http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/573935592/were-putting-a-tardis-into-orbit-really

  • @saintvi - thanks for the tip!  I’ve used my credits to purchase 1 month premium so I don’t have to worry about transferring everything over. 

  • More interns will mean huge lawsuits. Ask Gawker about that one! If the intern provides a valuable service they must be paid, as per the decision of the court.

  • @saintvi -  Thank you so much for transcribing this. Super meaningful since I’m Deaf and can’t hear the radio shows. <3

  • Dear Alex,

    I’m glad you posted a transcript. (I’m at work, and haven’t read it yet. Will get to it before tonight.) I listened to about 10 minutes of the audio feed but couldn’t make the time to finish (when I saw it was over an hour if memory serves)I’m still on the fence when it comes to “pledging” since I don’t blog on Xanga that much anymore, and was pretty perturbed about us lifers having to pay all over again. Plus I’ve still got plans to subscribe to Adobe’s Creative Cloud and move my whole website over there after September. However, I may just “pledge” before the end of the month. I’m betting the new platform will go ahead, even if the “goal” isn’t met, and if so, I can always resubscribe, since lifetime subscribers will see their blogs stay online anyway.Neat how old time bloggers seem to be coming out of the woodwork.I’m planning a “Voice of Reason” column about Xanga 2.0 real soon.Your “radio show” idea is great by the way.Michael F. Nyiri, poet, philosopher, fool

  • @baldmike2004 - Hey Mike, thanks for your thoughts.  Would you actually be interested in coming onto the show next Wednesday, say 6pm PST?  Would love to talk to you more, live!

  • @stevew918 - Great!  I just pledged (finally) too

    @Got_Takoyaki - no problem!

    @slmret - I noticed it did make a bump following the show.  That’s why the team needs to keep putting themselves out there in order for this to work

    @Texasjillcarmel - @Crystalinne - @christao408 - Thanks!

  • @TheTheologiansCafe - @saintvi - @KnightInCROATIANarmor - @WrappedinWishes2 - Thanks for the support!  (Sorry, just getting around to replying)

    @MyxlDove - Have you had the chance to meet him yet?

    @TaleOfAScale - I really do hope things work out.  As imperfect as Xanga can be at times, it still allowed us to all connect in a way we may not have on other platforms.

    @lil_squirrel4ever - I agree, I really hope my Xanga life is not going to end soon.

  • @nepenthium - It is a bit shaky.  I am hoping for the trend to be the same with this fundraiser; that is, big donations at the beginning and right at the end.  I really feel if the team really push for advertising they can secure so much more, but so far their PR piece is really lacking.

  • @Roadlesstaken - I hope they’ll follow through with another interview or another memo very soon!  Perhaps even reposting this would help ~ ~

  • @Roadlesstaken - Maybe, advertising does help. But just the idea of paid blogging is so antiquated in this day and age. There are plenty of free blogging platforms out there with bigger more thriving communities than xanga, so I have little hope for the future of xanga 2.0

  • @nepenthium - That paying part is a tough sell.  Still hoping that there will be an option for free blogging with the new version.

  • Yes, that was a great interview that I was waiting for…

    Xanga.com

    would be forever !!!

  • @SAINTHOMAS - Thanks, glad it helped you out!

  • @Roadlesstaken - Alex, I remember you asked me this last week but it took me a while to figure out where you asked. Thank you for thinking of me. Are weekends available? I don’t like to promise anything during the week, since I work up to 12 hours a day. This week I hope to finish up a long project for some panels to be installed onboard the new carrier Gerald R. Ford! I’ll be available after Friday at around 3pm. If it has to be Wednesday, I have to beg off. I have listened to a few of the interviews, really fun stuff. MFN/ppf

  • @baldmike2004 - I have done some Sundays in the past, but Sunday’s may be tough for the rest of this month since I have working weekends.  If I do find a chance to do it on a Sunday, I will let you know!

  • This is super helpful! Thanks for the interview, it gives me hope! Although it’s way past the 15th, I hope the programming isn’t that difficult and that they’re preparing to do the mass emails soon!

  • @christykim - definitely.  They did push the deadline to July 31st now

  • Thanks, it was a nice interview..  Keep up the good work and see you at Xanga 2.0..

  • Nice interview.

  • I’m soo confused. I don’t know how to use xanga 2.0

    • It seems like it’s still being updated with everything. I haven’t had a chance to play around with it yet myself.

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