July 14, 2010
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I Can’t Always Be A Nice Guy
“Whoa, you know you did something wrong when you make Alex upset!”
This was apparently a classmate’s response to my teammate when she told him about the day I got um, annoyed with our other teammate. Now, contrary to popular belief I’m not always going to be pleasant. I’m very understanding and empathetic yes, but even I can reach a breaking point. Of course, it takes a lot to push me to that point. What can you do? For starters, being unreliable, flaky, disrespectful, extremely critical and judgmental of others, hypocritical, stubborn to a fault, and unreasonable are certain traits one can have that will test my patience. Doing ALL of that, especially when those actions directly effect me and those around me? Yeah, I’m not going to stay quiet for too long.
Here’s a quick background of the girl that made me lose my cool. There’s this girl (lets call her N) in my grad program. She’s one of those sassy, loud, high maintenance, pretentious, highly opinionated girls that doesn’t have much of a word filter. As a friend and fellow classmate I was fine with her personality. In fact, often times she would make the time in class very entertaining just by being her outrageous self. Despite all of those traits, I still felt like overall she had a good head on her shoulder. Sure, she was a little ditzy and lacked common sense at times, but I knew she was more intelligent than she let on.
Our grad program requires a lot of group projects. Up until my recent summer course, I was never put into a group with N so I didn’t know how she was as a teammate. However, I sure did hear an earful from those that have. I just thought they were exaggerating how awful she was.
If anything, they understated how useless N can be.
To put it bluntly, the whole team project with N was a pain. She gave minimum effort doing her parts for the project. Whenever anyone else needed help with something, she never volunteered whereas everyone else did. At the same time, she expected us to support her when she was confused (which was a regular occurrence). Whenever one of us would confront her about her not pulling her weight, she would get defensive and rudely dismiss us. It was extremely hard getting her to come to meetings on time, and when she did she paid very little attention as her face was constantly buried in her laptop and phone. That trend carried itself to class and during our presentations.
The final straw was the day our professor went over all the things we needed to know and do to prepare for our final presentation. While everyone else was fully concentrating and taking notes, I see N next to me Twittering away and downloading music. When our professor was finished, he gave us the rest of the class time to work in our groups. We had A LOT to go over and everyone that paid attention was really stressing out. As we started to begin, I see N getting up and packing her stuff away. When I asked her what she was doing, she tells me “I’m tired. I’m gonna go home.”
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UGH!
Oh, HELL nah!! That ain’t gonna fly!!!
So how did I respond to that? To put it gently, I more or less told her to get her butt (I didn’t say “butt”, btw) back down so we can get our stuff (didn’t say “stuff” either) done. When I looked around, my teammates all had hilariously surprised faces as if they witness a rare event. N was (not surprisingly) visibly annoyed, but I didn’t care. This final presentation was worth half our grade for the class, and I’ll be damned if I let her get away with pulling that crap.
Sometime shortly after this, I made the decision to write a grievance email to the professor about N. I told him everything, recommending that she shouldn’t get the same grade as my team and saying that she was the major disappointment in an otherwise great class. Looking back, I was pretty harsh, but that didn’t make it any less true. I have to admit though, I was a little nervous about how my professor and my teammates would react to this. Was I possibly overreacting?
When I told them about what I wrote, I was pleasantly surprised to hear that they all felt the same exact way (some more so) and fully backed me up on calling N out. They told me they were glad I didn’t let this slide, as she was completely hurting our team’s integrity. My professor responded back with similar sentiments, saying he noticed her behavior as well and appreciated my courage to speak up for the team. He told us that after reading my email, there’s no way she is going to get a high grade in the class. That made us all feel a bit better
. The last thing he told us was not to worry about those type of people. He seen a lot of people like that over his life and sooner or later they do get what’s coming to them.
So yes, that was what I had to deal with in my summer course during the past 6 weeks. Yesterday was our last day and it most certainly couldn’t have come sooner. Going to try my best to avoid having her on my team ever again!
Comments (167)
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WOAH..Alex..ahaha..that’s funny though. You’re a sweet ass guy, but everyone’s got a breaking point. And I think you did the right thing!
I am glad to know something gets on your nerve. You were scaring me. It’s always the super happy people who kill.
Oh, god.
As someone who cared more about school than most people, I’ve seen my share of people not pulling their weight. Never in a project that important, and I don’t think I’ve ever dealt with anyone that blatantly frustrating, but… yeah.
Glad it’s behind you now.
And, psh. You shouldn’t always be a nice guy. Sometimes people need to get smacked with words.
good she didnt deserve the grade. I still think your a nice guy being nice doesnt mean you have to be a pushover
Yeah, I’ve had to work with those kind of people before; it sucks out whatever fun there might have been in the first place.
Haha. Ironically enough, this still makes you above average in the nice catergorie! I bet your team mates think you’re awesome for speaking up. Well done for speaking up too! That took confidence. I usually wait for them to leave then I talk about them. If my grade was in jeophardy, I’m not sure how I would react. But you definitely did the right thing. Good luck on your final grade!
see you ARE a heart breaker.
Sorry, couldn’t help it. Has nothing to do with the post, I know.
Good for you for standing up for you and the team. People like that annoy the heck out of me.
I had someone like that in a group too. I was also kind of afraid of what people would think if I were the “tattle tale” but meh. The person really did jack shit and it pissed me off wayyyyyy too much cuz I had to take up their slack as the group leader. (Well, me and another guy. But when there’s 6 people in a group and it’s not a difficult project…wtf?) Said person certainly did not get the same grade as the rest of us. I made sure of it. I was told basically the same thing by my prof – that he appreciated my courage to speak up.
It is so frustrating when group members don’t do their part on a group project. I’m currently in grad school too and it is especially frustrating when it happens now…. these people are getting their master’s or even their ph.d!!! that requires a lot of work and i don’t think grad school should be taken lightly by people. :S
now go and enjoy your summer! that and blog more for us<3!
hmmm i hope to not meet graduate students like that in fall… if i do then our future society is in a crisis. btw did you really tell her to put her “butt” down? so PG.
I know exactly how that goes.
It’s us nice guys that really can’t stand it when people think they can get away with being giant PITAs.
There are always people in groups who try to slide by on everyone else’s hard work, so it’s good to know you weren’t having that.
Good on you for being proactive about it! And hopefully she won’t try to pull anymore laziness if she’s ever teamed with anyone else.
You really cant be the nice guy all the time. im happy you wrote that email to the teacher because her getting a grade like everyone else owuldnt be fair. Im proud you stuck her ground and made her stay. Your still a nice guy to me
I know where your coming from. I have that issue to with my classmates. People usually don’t hear me snap but when i do. The earth stops. lol.
I always hear your pleasantly happy tone on the vids so I’m always thinking that is you got pissed off… *shive*. lol. it makes me feel cold.
MM MM MMM. I LOVE the magic behind the rare display of anger, and how much more effective it is when it’s rare.
G’job, Alex.
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3 minutes between your post popping up in my subs, then me commenting it, and 16 people commented before me! FFFFUUUUUU-
I just pictured that entire scenario, but for some reason you had a turnip as a head. And N was really short.
Don’t you just despise it when you get put with partners that just drive you INSANE!?!?! I’ve had some partners which would have been more useful if they just jumped in front of a bus. Maybe then she’d actually buy my group some extra time instead of weighing us back. Oh gosh, I’m a mean person too when I get ticked off :]
At least you told your prof :] Wise. Wise.
you gotta do what you gotta do…
People like that, ugh. Similar situation happened to me. The girl was on AIM/facebook during the review for our final project then had the balls to ask for my notes. Not only that, she failed to show, TWICE, for our group gatherings. Wrote the professor quite a rant….
GOOD FOR YOU! Yes, that’s absolutely right. Sooner or later those people get what’s coming to them, and in N’s case, it seems like it’ll be SOONER. Haha, I got vicariously annoyed just reading what you wrote about her.
I remember when I had to do a debate. Two people against two people and my partner was a flake the whole time. So I struggled through the whole thing and…I got a good grade and she failed(thankfully, because I wouldn’t have appreciated that she got the same grade as I)…so I know how it is. And that is one of the reasons for my hating group projects.
Good for you. It must have been a great relief that the professor understood.=) And now you can celebrate the end.
Btw, I don’t think you were that harsh myself. Not with how she was acting. >.>
You showed your assertiveness skills that’s required of a leader. You demanded accountability. Good for you.
You’re gonna need these skills at the work place.
Sometimes, you got to be tough to get people’s minds right.
good for you. more people should do what you did. no, you weren’t harsh at all. heyell no
Ba-zing! How on earth did she even qualify for the grad program to begin with? I’ve been in your situation before and I think you handled it like a champ.
Good for you for doing what’s right and standing up for everyone else as well.
O.O I can never imagining you turning green and going Hulk on somebody!
ALEX, SMASH!!!!
Good for you. See, Alex can be a little meanie. Just kidding.
That’s the same reason why I try to stay away from group projects. Someone always does more work and it’s usually me. Eh what can you do.
Aww, I hate it when team members do that. I’ve had so many of those types that the one thing I’ve come to despise most about college is group projects.
Anyway, at least you were able to get closure over this by not letting her get away with it.. Imo, it doesn’t make you meaner, just more assertive.
good job!
Tbh, I knew a girl just like N, except she was such a perfectionist that she didn’t trust anyone else to do the work except me and herself. She told me this when she excused/dismissed the rest of the team without asking me (apparently, to her, they were too incompetant), said she was too busy, and left me to take on the project all by myself!!
Rock on. You were completely appropriate. More people should do this kind of thing.
I just wrote a huge paragraph about my really bad experience last semester with a couple of flaky, slacker teammates and an unhelpful professor (whom I went to at least 3 times), but I deleted the whole thing because it made me so mad. lol.
Gotta lay it on the line.
Haha, I’m totally feelin’ a fist pump on that one. I love it when “the nice guy” gets mad. It’s so… satisfying.
~V
omg that sucks so hard
i’m sorry. i’m always afraid i’m gonna end up bein that person cuz i’m just so passive lol but ya i never speak up like that lol i just always end up covering for my partner and makin sure everyone comes out alright lol but glad you spoke up and you didnt let her slack off, someone’s gotta put them in place! congrats
Justin
@aphoenix_rising - Agreed, group projects are always most dreaded for me, too. Especially when the classmates are allowed to *choose* their groups all at once in class and the lazy slackers latch onto the people they know are smart and always get good grades. My social work professors wax eloquent on the values of team building and the like, but that is bull poop. In a good group, sure, you can get some great synergy going, but there are inevitably groups of extreme opposites with an unlucky hard worker getting dragged down by students unwilling or unable to contribute. (And one assertive, conscientious peer does little to change their entire scholastic style- I should know. I’ve tried. I try every time.) If you have a professor like one I just had, you will get blamed for not somehow MAKING them work harder since you are the one who cares. Group projects suck. I think professors like them because maybe they take less time to grade than a bunch of individual papers.
Wow, I’m in awe of your patience and tolerance level! So nice!
godly patience.
@crazy2love - Yup, it was how I was taught.
@throughsamseyes - Oh trust me, I can get annoyed. I can just take a lot of hits =)
@Paul_Partisan - My killing days are over. Now I just play tennis and blog.
@unabridgedtales - Trust me, I’m not always the nice guy. I can be very assertive when needed. I got that from my dad haha
@samanthabecicka - Exactly, I’m not gonna let someone take advantage of me and my teammates and get away with a high grade!
@The44thHour - Like I wrote in the email, she was really the only sore spot in the whole experience.
next time i’m going to observe the group members before i act like i care about the grade. -_-
rofl, way to be, mate. Sometimes you just have to lay down the law.
John
I had a group member like that back when I was still studying. I had to keep my cool constantly. Ugh. Good on ya for speaking up, though! I’m glad your professor saw her for who she is and made the right call.
@Pink_TeaCups - I’m pretty sure our team got an A. We rocked, despite one dead weight.
@repressedwriter - I still get heart broken much more often!
@Rhia_Pyrithea - That’s good! You see, even the OTHER team was getting annoyed with her! You know that’s bad when people outside of your team are feeling affected!
@AmyC0987 - N was wondering the other day why she was getting the lowest GPA in this program out of all her past programs. I wonder why…
@kaiori - I’m definitely blogging more than I expected this summer!
@sonychak - I said something else (updated the entry hehe)
HAHAHA, I dealt with that shit ALL the damn time during my jr and senior years of undergrad. Surprised these people somehow make it into grad programs…
karate kick to her face should set her straight.
@B2yan_C - I’ll play nice, but I ain’t gonna be a pushover!
@ElusiveSoul - I really hope she gets an intervention. She does this crap every class.
@boyhnc - I think I can be nice and assertive at the same time =D
@verified_but_still_denied - Haha, exactly. I have my dad’s temper when I’m mad!
@Coffee_Kaioken - Haha I remember that happening with that screenname post too!
@Shavanna - A turnip? Explain?!
@Utoppia@datingish - Exactly. That crap ain’t flying!
@Lordv16 - Did she end up getting a low score?
@Senlin - Try sitting next to her the entire time she was distracting herself from the issue at hand. URGH!!
@imasilentheart - Yeah, I think just reading it I felt like I totally destroyed her verbally haha. It was deserved though.
@ElusiveWords - Thanks, I hope I still have them for a long time.
@mynameisblueskye - Tough love I say
@hilaw - I was just being real
@Ampersands_Anonymous - A lot of my other classmates wondered that too. We’re more surprise how she keeps on passing freakin’ group grades are holding her up.
@CITYG1RL - Thanks, it needed to be done.
@drung888 - Oh I can, especially if I have a little of my dad’s temper in me!
@buiptammy - I’ve had no problems in my past group projects with others. She just..sucks haha
@aphoenix_rising - I think a perfectionist might be more useful than whatever she was XP
@wordkisses - I was fuming too while writing this, but it needed to be put down so I can get it out of my mind.
@tollyyjoy - @MyCongee - I try to be. It’s definitely needed in I/O psychology!
@The_Aftershock_3650 - Yep, gotta be a man! =P
@FreeeVerse - Yeah, he said he had his suspicions and my email confirmed it
@Agent_Eric - I’m surprise too. I can’t just let her skate by with that crap.
@CaKaLusa - Good idea. You always have the right advice.
Your post just reminded me why I hate(d) group work so much. There is always a sloth who needs to be pulled through. I am impressed that you spoke up to your professor. I remember once complaining about a fellow student in my class who dominated the whole class time with his views/opinions/craps. My professor wasn’t so understanding. Oh well ….
It’s always the nice, pleasant ones that blow up. I THINK IT’S GREAT
I wouldn’t have had the balls to email the professor, no matter how agonizing it was to work with someone like that. I admire you
got what she deserved.
I avoid group work in general because of this..
And because I’m sort of a report-hog.. ^^”
Good for you though, Alex. People shouldn’t be able to ride off of the hard work of others.
@beowulf222 - There’s a guy like that in my program, but at least he knows what he’s talking about and does good work, unlike N.
@lilxwunxnxluv - Haha well like I said, I’m not day in day out nice. I experience my range of emotions too!
@mncjl - I’d say.
@eternal_relevance - Too much undue stress on all of us. Definitely glad I spoke up.
Haha, wow, that’s awesome that you put your foot down. And quite humorous how the rest reacted
Sadly, there are many of her type out there (I was just thinking of one tonight), but I agree that eventually they get what’s coming to them!
i am glad you are no pushover
@BranmacFeabhail - I’m glad I’m not either.
@webofsimplicity - Urgh, I’m so glad there’s really only one of her in my program.
Well done Alex. I’m proud of you. =) Similar thing happened to me and I told the girl off.
I know thats right. You go Alex :]
@Roadlesstaken - Haha, indeed!
thumbs up* that took guts
instead of “butt” and “stuff”, what did you say? I’m curious.
I could never picture you cursing at someone so I’m surprised. BUT I’m glad you stood up for yourself and your team. Writing your professor was a good idea!
lol. that’s not harsh. i can totally sympathize on the whole, “nice person” thing. if you push certain buttons, i have short fuse. good to see you put her in her place.
Wow! She seems pretty annoying. You have done the right thing. Even you complained to your professor, I still think you’re a nice guy. You did a great job for the group =)
I always hate working in groups for this exact same reason…way to speak up!
you told her. good job.
I have to say I am very impressed. And here I was thinking you’d be nice even if it meant the very death of you. It’s good to see that you have every ounce of pluck to stick up for yourself and for other people in the name of what is right and just. It’s even better to see N get exactly what she deserves. People like her make me terrified of group projects.
People like that always fail in the end.
fight on!
Good job on calling her out. I would too (If I do get annoyed enough). What ususally happens when I’m in groups, is that no one takes the inituative to do anything… so I always end up directing people to do stuff. But I think sometimes it accicently comes off as being bossy. Thus, I dont like working in groups. There is usually too much chitchatting involved and we are always rushed on time because of it.
Way to go! this is how things should be dealt like with stuffs like this
@crazy2love - I think he does, I noticed it as well
I was annoying the other way. lol I always wanted to do too much. I changed, I did my part and that was that lol If anyone had an idea I would just support it. I really hated being the leader cause you got stuck with everything and stressed out so much. And everyone thought it was ok to just let you do it all and get the great grade. I guess now I have worked with those types as well, they were thinking they were in the way of my master plan. I am so glad I relaxed.
I remember my best group work was with my very best friends LOL We made it funny, informative, the teacher never gave us back our tape: he loved it so much. I think that the best team work, is the one when you look back on it and realize you even had fun doing it.
it takes a lot to get me that upset… so N must’ve work their way up to get you in that kind of position.
love it!
I don’t know…. when I pictured you loosing your cool, I pictured you with a really red head, but oddly I didn’t see a tomato. Tomatoes are too cliche; I think turnips are better… even though they aren’t red-ish ._. It’s like dark purple… with a hint of red
Or it could be a sign that I wish to dine on your nose.
WOOOOOOOOO! *fist pump*
God, I hate people like that. I HATE teamwork, sometimes, because you always have to make up for the human anchors.
I don’t think you were harsh at all, it had to be handled like that.
well said!
I think you did a good job of putting her back in her place. It’s bound to happen sooner or later, anyway. But super props for being ballsy enough to do it
Wow. I would be so enraged. I hate it when other people don’t take MY grade seriously, its all well and good it if you want to slack off on your own personal work, but not when it impacts another person. I hate hate hate group work.
People say that the key to success is hard work, persistence and others which is true! But ever since I had my first job, the true key to success is being mean sometimes! You have to be MEAN sometimes because if not people will walk all over you. Yes, I am like N the girl that’s always saying something smart but yet really blonde but I know I do the work and help when I can! You’ll ALWAYS have people like that in this world but at the same time when you stand up for yourself and confront them they’ll think twice before they mess with you! But Alex, I’m proud of you we all as humans can be cruel! But you go boy!!
way to lay the smackdown, sir. i hope you handed her a tissue, later.
Good on you brotha, gotta stand up for the right thing!
Good for you! Honestly, even then, it seems like you were being nice!
Way to snitch.
Not bad,its good to stand up for yourself. The funny thing is by putting N in her place you might have just made yourself attractive to her.
you are still being nice though. (: to her so she’ll learn, and to the rest of the team so that their opinions are heard. go you.
I’ve had similar experience with those sort of people..but yeah if you feel like she doesn’t deserve it and the fact that she isn’t doing anything..then yeah..you were right in all ways than one. No one blames you..but good for you though~
@Got_Claws - How did she react?
@indiechaos - Hehe
@tsotofu - I set assets and shiitake mushrooms
@HeLLo_Bianca - I rarely curse, but there are times when cursing is acceptable to use =P
@xleezybee - Yeah I’m nice generally, but I’m not gonna play the fool.
@stray_sparrow - Apparently the others were planning on emailing the professor too, I just got to it first haha
@angeltears2431 - I did not have a problem with any of my other group mates throughout the program…until her =O
She got pwned
@CuaSo - I think part of the reason I wanted to write this was to show that I’m not always going to fit this nice category when niceness is not deserved. I gotta be pragmatic about it.
@I_am_SeeD - Karma I say
@xaannnniieex - Group projects are definitely trickier than people might think. I’ve been fortunate to have good teammates so far, with N being the exception.
@introvertdreams - Yep, it was how I was taught to space things in school!
@LostlnLondon - fortunately the other people in my group were just as leader oriented and were friends, so they help made the experience much better.
@smile4leena - It was the 5th week, so everything she was doing added up haha
Good job, I’m proud of you ^_^
@Shavanna - Please don’t dine on my nose. That might hurt me.
@nimbusthedragon - I was very fortunate the past few group projects where I had good teammates. I was spoiled =P
@Keeko1 - Yeah, it felt harsher because I normally don’t slam people like that. It was needed though.
@x_onholiday - Thanks, my teammates seemed glad I took that step. If I didn’t do it, one of my teammates probably would have.
@Eternalimplosion - Exactly. Accountability!
@PookieFlirtsAgain - I think it’s more like making the appropriate decision to do something, even if it doesn’t feel good.
@TheBigShowAtUD - Eh, she’s probably too stubborn to tear about it.
@vandyyyyyyy - Thanks. I’m sure one of my teammates would have done the same had I didn’t get to it first. In fact, I know for a fact someone from the OTHER team wrote something to my professor about my teammate for being rude during the presentations haha.
@wolvenchic - Haha, how was that being nice?
@Uek - Mhmm. I don’t regret it though.
@Evil10 - Haha oh god, my other teammate was joking about that earlier in the course. No no no no no…
@caeliosophy - I’m pretty sure one of my other teammates would have said something too. We had to fill out a group evaluation form at the end, and they all wrote something after rating N. I just wrote a bit more haha.
I have a girl in my class thats like N minus she’s the opposite. She always thinks she is right and tries to overpower everyone. I haven’t worked with her yet (and hopefully never will) but from what I hear she doesn’t help them and leaves to do “group” formal lab reports on her own. WTF? lol. But I’m glad you are done!
@Hinase - Yeah, I don’t feel I did anything wrong. It was the right move, even though I’m not the most comfortable to call out someone that way.
@RemiBlanc - haha, perhaps
@kkaayyyy - N also thinks she’s always right, but she doesn’t do much. urgh.
Don’t worry I used to be a nice guy and now not so much so this label doesn’t apply when I get angry…:(
@Roadlesstaken - I’m not comfortable with it either but in the experience you had with N, it’s understandable that you would do that..or anyone doing that. People who slack shouldn’t deserve the grade.
@Roadlesstaken - I don’t doubt it.
I hate working in groups. There’s always someone like that!
I had a group presentation in my psych class one year… and it was 1/3 of our grade… still pretty important. No one made it to the group meetings, and on the day of the presentation, one girl didn’t even show up! I was left to explain her part (which I pretty much BS’d) because the prof clearly said at the begining of the semester (as well as reminding us constantly) that IF a group member should not show up on the day of, others in the group are responsible for knowing their part.
I went straight to the prof after class (no way was I going to wait to sit down and write an e-mail)… I got an ‘A’, she got an ‘F’… or so he said… but it made me feel soooo much better!
I’ve worked with someone like that. Is more when the teacher explained the project, the girl would ask what exactly were we doing.
….you became hood for a few minutes. thats sexy. lol
all jokes aside: that bitch deserved it. lol
@jolprex - N would totally not pay attention, so I feel no pity for her when she has no clue what we’re doing.
@JennHee - That’s good! Yeah, I ended up talking to my professor anyway on the last day of class with my other teammates. It was a good talk =)
@jeannie_dot_com - I let that side come out here and there =D
support. everyone has a patience limit and if its important you were definitely within your rights to speak up!
@matt_chung - Apparently so. The professor already had a hint that this happening, and I just confirmed it more so.
This happened for my final project in my communications class this past semester, except that ALL of my teammates were behaving this way. I understand your frustration and, like you, I spoke to the professor, so I am inclined to say you did the right thing
@koalkat - Ew, all your teammates? That sucks. I was lucky that my other teammates were wonderful.
I totally understand your situation. My whole group sent an email to the professor regarding let’s say Mr. N. It’s not easy….kudos to you.
You were justified in emailing the professor…it definitely wouldn’t have been fair for her to receive the same grade. I can’t believe she had the nerve to look annoyed! I dislike confrontations too much to ever do something like that, but I admire you for standing up for yourself and your team.
at least you have a talking point for interviews now..ahah
I don’t think it is not that you are not being a nice guy… you’re just not being a pushover (=
And yay for standing up to her!
I use to always slam people(to the professor) for not doing their part in a group project. I like to do well on projects and I won’t stand for laggers!
Wow, good for you! That is courageous, considering the fact that you considered that girl a friend! You don’t mess around, haha.
@beautiful_free - It isn’t. Took me until the end of the course to say something. I was hoping she would improve…but I guess not.
@xiaosnowtenshi - Haha well like I said, she’s one of those people that think others aren’t as good as she is.
@ch0w - That’s one way to look at it haha
@babixling - Lets say I’m a lot of different types of adjectives =)
@swtaznxtc90 - I was gonna tell you about this last night, but since I couldn’t I wrote it down =P
@Pcgecko85 - Dang, you slam people? That’s hardcore!! j/k
@supastaa - I was really, really hoping she would turn her actions around, but sadly that didn’t happen.
Yes definitely!
I’ve dealt with the exact same thing before. Good job for not putting up with her crap.
This sounds a LOT like me haha :]
Wow. Your post confirmed (and then debunked!) my beliefs: I thought guys liked those loudmouthed, attention-attracting girls. Don’t guys think that those girls are “comfortable” to be around with because they’re straightfoward? And don’t girls do that to get some male eyes on them?
Like you said, people seem to think that if peers talk confidently like that, then they must feel confident about their intelligence. Apparently that girl did that to disguise her sickening lack of brains. And thankfully I was proven wrong and some people are actually capable of noticing.
Contrary to what some others might say, I’m not surprised at that angry outburst. People like you– the usually nice types– are the most dangerous, because when you get mad– oh boy; someone’s done something really bad to send you over the edge. Kudos for doing what your team members were too scared? unsure? about to do.
@Roadlesstaken - shexy.
@SliverLines - thanks, I’m gonna watch out for her in the near future.
@bettinatron - Haha N or me?
@christykim - She’s fine as an outrageous friend, but as teammate that I need to rely on…nahh
In my psychology class, we were instructed to leave our initials on the parts of the group projects that we did, so that way we would get the credit we actually deserved.
@the_rocking_of_socks - We had to turn in group evaluation forms for this class. Our group ended up writing more because of the unusual case of N haha
I agree, and I’ve been in similar situations. (Had to do a little ass-kicking myself from time to time.) I hope in the work world it gets better, where eventually those people slide down the ranks and the hard workers get promoted, and eventually we all end up with others on our same “level.”
You will meet other N’s in the course of life. My last two supervisors were such people. Now, I basically work for myself.
The girl were shocked and she was scared of me. Then she told my friend that I’m a bitch which is a bad idea because my friend told me. LOLLL
Way to call her out man! She thinks shes gonna get away with a nice grade doing a half-ass job?!
Manly points +10 for Alex. I had someone like this in my group too. He was awful.
hahaa, i had a girl like that for a group project once. just that, i blow up way easier than you do. hahaa! and i threatened her that if she didn’t get her work done, i would personally make sure she’d never be accepted into the cheerleading squad (i had my connections! :]) and she took it seriously when i was just ranting random junk. and i rated her pretty low when we were given a reflection paper on our teamwork. but the humiliation is a sure way to get people to be more self-conscious.
if i were you and i knew that person was in my class and that person was going to be in my group for the class project. Hell no that aint gonna happen..i’ve seen a few of those already i don’t tolerate them at all. I would of just kicked them right from the start than rather waiting. Its okay to be nice..i’m nice too but damnit there are some days when you gotta teach slackers a serious lesson. You have to be agressive as you are nice.
@Lynn1013 - Ideally that should happen, but I have a feeling some people like N still can slip by through their charm or something.
@cyberbear - I wonder how they got to the position they got.
@H0Eass - Exactly. You know what’s funny? At the beginning of the semester, she was like “I’m not gonna let my group get me a B in this class!” ….
@Meowmeowkimmaee - Yay, did I level up? (end dorky joke)
@x3style - Dang, heartless…I approve haha
@nooitzben - Before I didn’t know she was THIS bad. Now I know, so I’m gonna petition hard not to have her in my group in the near future.
Good story. Sometimes, speaking up is actually what’s truly nice. Mean as it may have seemed to you. Sorry, you can’t deny you’re a nice guy all-around, Alex!
Don’t fight it–embrace it!!
@Roadlesstaken - lol oh God, you of course! I can’t stand people like that!
I had a group project with two people and we were looking at a 34 and I did everything I was supposed to and they did nothing. Of course I flipped and they finished, but we only ended up getting an 80 when I should have got 100 -_- My teacher wouldn’t give me a better grade.
@Roadlesstaken - i have a low toleration for people who have the ability, but don’t use it to its utmost potential. because i am not naturally smart. i have to put in double the effort whereas they halfass everything to get the same grade i do! and if they bring me down with them (especially in group projects), i’d really strangle them.
i know, i’m vicious. but it is in my best interest (and i guess, theirs as well). hahaa!
@Shopgirl0393 - Lets just say I’m a good guy. I’ll be fine with that label =)
@x3style - The dumbest people I’ve met in life have been from college, mostly related to what you just described.
@Roadlesstaken - ah, but i am still in high school.
no more summer school? hurray
sometimes you gotta speak up to get what you need done
@Yohkom - I still got this one online course =/
@Roadlesstaken - how much longer do you have in your program?
This is an Alex I never thought I’d meet.
I’m glad you took a stand & I still think you’re a preeeettttty nice guy.
@Yohkom - until next spring
@HelloKitty0809 - Hey, gotta show I have sides to me like everyone else =)
I hated group projects. This makes me happy not to be in school any longer!
Unfortunately this world is full of people like N. My salute to such a great personality who sacrifices his cool to make things easier and alright for others. (I’m talking about you, Alex.)
@TheCheshireGrins - Haha, I was thinking about you when I wrote this since you wrote something about group projects not too long ago.
@RestlessButterfly - Thanks for the clarification =P
Well done! You can’t really always be a nice guy, since that means certain individuals will just try to run over you. I’m glad that you called this gal out, there are too many people who don’t deserve to be in the positions they are in and need to either wake up, or face the consequences.
Best of luck on that project. Too bad you didn’t have a video of what happened
@AzureRecollections - I ended up getting the A overall, so I’m happy =)
we all have our breaking point.
Aww. This is your latest post? I was having a good read going through everything
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Should have gave her a good kick in the butt too.
@xkthily - I verbally did haha
@JinnLedet - Yup, life has been keeping me busy these past few days.
@npr32486 - I probably could have broke even more, but I was able to control most of the anger so she only experience a slimmer of it haha
I agree with Matt. All good qualities!
Be mean more!
Alex! good for you! I can’t wait to meet you in person.
but we like that youre nice…
haha yeah i 100% support what you did in response to the girl that was slacking off and taking advantage of everyone elses hardwork. your situation really came down to standing up for yourself and your other teammates. im glad you did.
@rxglasshalffull - I’m glad I did too =)
Ohhh I had a similar situation with a roommate and our lab courses! I was always paired with her and she never did any work! >:( I couldn’t do what you did though… probably should have….
@AmeliaHart - It was not an easy decision to make, but in the end I have no doubt it was the right one.
I can relate, after being in a group with a similar person.
sometimes I offer to do extra work in case i’m not pulling my weight enough.
looks so fun!!
Good job for standing up for your team! I like the tags you posted for this.
@karen0z - I like having fun with those tags =)
yayyy!!!!! you’re growing up before my eyes. *sniff
gosh.
Oh gosh, God bless her! *shakes head*