December 18, 2008

  • My Dad, My Baba

    Note:  this post is gonna have a slightly different tone than most of my previous ones.  After having the most heart-wrenching dream I’ve ever had not too long ago, I feel like writing about my dad.

    For the longest time, I thought my baba (father in Cantonese) was such a huge enigma.  He seem to have a lot of friends in the Cantonese speaking community here in Maryland and in fact his nickname amongst them is “Big Mouth Chan”, given because he usually talks and laugh the loudest at social gatherings.  If you were to see him at a party, you’ll see he’s always going around chatting with people, making tons of jokes, and laughing up a storm.  You’ll probably also notice where I got my laugh and walking style from.

    Anyways, what confused me so much as I was growing up was why my baba never acted in that friendly, sociable way when he’s with me or my brother.  At home, he tended to be very quiet, intimidating, and looked a little annoyed to be honest.  I don’t think my dad and I ever had a real serious conversation.  At most, we may talk about elementary things like where I wanted to eat, what job I got, how to fix something on my car, etc.  We never talked about any personal things that I see dads on television talk about to their children all the time. 

    It really made me wonder whether or not he was truely happy with me.  All his actions made it seem like he didn’t really care about me and that I was more of an annoyance than anything else.  Growing up, I didn’t really see him that often because, at the time, my parents were running a restaurant and were always there working.  Sadly, I think the most interaction I would get from my dad is when I was being punished by him.  He didn’t try to talk to me or explain anything; he would just spank me silly and yell at me until he felt I had enough. 

    As this trend continued, I really started to loathe my dad.  “He never acts like a real dad to me!” I thought.  I barely respected him for the longest time.  I still listened to him but only because I felt obligated to.  So many times, I told myself that when I get older and have a child, I would treat him with the utmost care and respect a dad can give to one’s child.  I wanted my child to love me and that meant to be nothing like my dad.

    However, I started to see him a bit differently after a rather long conversation with my mom some time ago.  She was giving me a haircut one day and while we were chatting the subject of our conversation turned to my dad.   In the conversation, I learned so many new things that I never knew about my dad.

    She told me how my paternal grandfather left my grandma, my aunt, and my dad to go to the Philippines to make money, but in doing so he ended up staying there for the next 17 years without returning back to visit.  My dad didn’t have any contact with my grandfather until he was 18 years old, and by then my dad had already learned to take care of himself.  In fact, he had to drop out of school at age 15 so he could work and provide for the family. 

    My mom told me my dad loves me more than I will ever know,  he just has a different way of showing it.  While he doesn’t show it verbally, he shows it by working extremely hard so that he can provide my brother and I a better life and more opportunities than he ever had as a child.

    I began to hypothesize that one of the reasons my dad doesn’t really talk to me about things and why it’s always a little awkward when we are together is due largely to his childhood.  He didn’t really have a father to teach him things or to talk to him when he was down or whatever, so it makes sense that he doesn’t know how to do those things with me. 

    After seeing my dad in a new light, I went back to a lot of my old memories of him and realized how much he has actually done and sacrifice for me.  I really felt bad that I used to think such bad thoughts about him.  Although not the most emotional, empathetic father, he really has provided for me in so many ways that I probably owe him a lifetime of favors.  Still, with all that being said, I still wonder if I really loved him. That answer came to me in a dream I had about a few weeks ago. 

    In my dream, I’m walking down a long hallway.  Soon enough, I see my parents standing in front of me, looking very worried.

    I don’t know how I came to this conclusion based on that, but I suddenly realized that I had died and my spirit was in the process of leaving Earth.  Somehow, my parents were able to see me one last time before I departed from them forever.

    Can’t remember too much about what we said then, but what I really remember is the sight of my mom crying hysterically and my dad looking grim as I told them how much I will miss them, my brother, and everyone else I’ve ever cared about.  I didn’t want to leave, but I knew I could only stay for so long.  Suddenly, I began fading away and started yelling out loud “No!” frantically. 

    In the last image of my dream, I’m looking directly at my dad.  He had not said a single word the entire time, yet his wretched, teary face said so much more to me than words would ever convey.  I just kept staring at him, meeting his eyes, and started weeping.  With the last ounce of my strength, I manage to yell out for him one last time before I woke up.

    That was the first and only night I have ever woken up literally sobbing and gasping for air, with my heart pounding so hard that I thought it would break through my chest.

     

    Yeah, I think I love my dad, my baba.  Hopefully one day, I will have the courage to say that to him.

Comments (96)

  • Wow. Great post.

  • haha. thats pretty similar to my dad except he’s constantly being lame and i’m ignoring him. my bad. :( hopefully one day i’ll have the courage to tell him i love him too!

  • Love it. Know what? Even in the hard times when my mom’s talking direct smack to me- I realize it’s because she doesn’t really know what to do with me or what to say anymore. Very inspirational! I enjoyed it. :]

  • awe. thats great. :]

  • This made me teary-eyed ;/

  • I really wish a similar revelation would come to my brother soon.

    I know my family’s a bit disjunct (something like yours)… but I also know that my father cares about us deeply and is hurt that we don’t seem to realize it.

  • very moving… great post

  • Your dad sounds like my mom. Now that I’m older, I realized the sacrifices she made for my sister and I and they were major sacrifices. My mom and I have never said ‘I love you’ even and I know some might find that strange (I have, at times) but its her background and the way she was raised. While reading your post, it sounded so similar to my situation! I think our parents love us in their own way, though. It’s good that you realized it too.

  • very touching post :)

  • my baba is like this too…..

  • Very nice entry. I once wanted to blog about the same issue, but never did it because it was so hard to talk about. I also feel the distance between me and my dad. I also thought about how I would be a great father when I grow up, be someone who is different from my dad. When I got older (not long ago), I tried to think about all the things that he has done right. He’s working so hard; I’ve realized I took it all for granted since he’s putting me through college. The notion of being a better father developed because my dad yelled at me and my sibling a lot when we were little. Even though he has stopped yelling as much, and I’m living away from home, I’m still not at peace with him. I still have not completely forgiven him…and it’s tragic.

  • When I read your post, I pretty much started to cry; tears were streaming down my face. It made me seriously think about my relationship with my father. I’m actually gonna post an entry in regards to this. Last summer I took writing class, and the professor wanted us to write about a defining moment in our lives; I wrote about my tumultuous relationship with my father.

  • I don’t think you have to say you love him, because just by being your best and doing what you believe is right in life shows that you do.

  • hhmm.. i really don’t know what it feels like to have a dad.. even the the phrase “my dad” gives me the creeps.. soo weird^~” haha

    well, goodluck on yours! perhaps dads are just like that? i guess they may tend to put up a strong face or an image.. but they sure love you no matter what.. hehe

  • i love my baba too ;D lols ngo oi ngo ga baba ;D lols sooo nay jo meh yay ah ? ;D lols i should be sleeping ;x

  • I’m so touched. I think they just love us in a way that we do not understand :)

    I admire your courage to have written this post. Thank you!

  • This was a fantastic post. Thank you so much for sharing! I hope someday that you and your father can say everything you want to say to each other.

  • Your “case” reminds a lot of mine too when my mom defended him why he never spent time with us. I thought he really didn’t like/love us because we are all girls and all he wanted was a boy. But my mom made me realize that things he does is just because he love us (6 daughters) very much.

  • i hate u for making me teary eyed >o<
    but.. nice post :P

  • great post. thanks for sharing. I can’t say that I’ve ever said “I love you” to either of my parents, but they know I do. also, I’ve never heard those words from them either, but I know they do.

  • @tollyyjoy - 

    Good luck! I don’t know why saying those three words can be so hard.

  • @reallifedemo - 

    Do you do anything now to show your dad how much you care about him? I try to give him little gifts and do favors for him here and there and I hope that he knows that way.

  • @SUGARCANEkitty - 

    My mom generally likes to talk and discuss things with me, so for me I knew my mama cared about me for a while. I sorta accepted my dad as the way he is and I’m fine w/ it now

  • @mysteriousromantic - 

    Honestly I don’t think saying I love you is very common among Asian households. Whenever I bring this subject up to all my Asian friends they’re like “yea, same here”. I ended up taking a cultural psyc class just so I can understand why this is and it helped me out a lot. Forgot to mention in my post, but taking that class allowed me to accept my dad even more.

  • @chineseboystyle - 

    It got extremely hard to write about as I went further and further into my entry. Your dad sounds very similar to my dad. I hope one day you’ll forgive him. What’s stopping you from doing that now?

  • @BomCamChuoi - 

    Awesome, can’t wait to read it. Yea, I started fighting back some emotions when I was writing down that dream. It felt sooo real…

  • Touching. 

    I wish I could say the same about mine but there is no such light to be shed on that issue.

  • @knzircon9 - 

    Yea, I agree. I’m doing that right now, but it would be nice if I was able to say it out loud to him. For now, I’ll just settle with a mutual understanding

  • @stantoh - 

    Ahh forgive me, but what does that man?

  • @cherrie_heart03 - 

    True true. I’m so used to see Asian men being all tough and strong that whenever I see them show any emotions I tend to feel it too. For example, in The Last Samurai I always get extremely sad at the end when this one respected guy dies. Ahhh…

  • @lazygrlx3 - 

    Haha I actually understood that. Didn’t know you spoke Canto as well!

  • @blairdelicato - 

    I was rather surprise with the end result of this entry. Didn’t expect it to be so heartfelt. Thanks for reading! I know it was a bit long

  • @TheCheshireGrins - 

    Haha that would be a very interesting day if that time ever comes. I’ll just have to settle with comfortable silences between us for now =P

  • @tweeny_tear - 

    You have 5 siblings?? That’s a lot! What are you (youngest, oldest, middle…)?

  • @yan_ni - 

    My bad . If it’s any consolation, I almost got teary eyes while writing about my dream

  • @aJoLLyDork - 

    That’s exactly how I see things as well. My little brothers been repeatedly attempting to get the family to start saying it haha. It’s always an uncomfortable exchange of words between him and say my mom. He’s still young enough to know better =P

  • @Femme003 - 

    I’m sorry to hear . Was he not a good dad at all to you? You don’t have to say if you don’t want to.

  • @Roadlesstaken - 

    yeah five and i am the oldest.. alot of expectation, dont like it at all. how about you lot siblings? you must be youngest? heh

  • @tweeny_tear - 

    Haha what makes you think I’m the youngest?

    I have one brother who’s 9 years younger than me. I’m the oldest amongst my brother and cousins that live near by.

  • @Roadlesstaken - 

    Sometimes actions speak louder than words :) .

  • @Roadlesstaken - 

    hehe I don’t know. maybe it’s because everyone loves you on here xanga and I have this illusion that youngest persons in families are the most loved. :D … don’t ask where i get this illusion.. *cough, cough, my sister, sister* little bit sibling jealousy.. :D ^^

  • @tweeny_tear - 

    Ah gotcha. Yea, everyone definitely doesn’t like me on xanga haha. I’ve got my share of haters =P

  • Really good post. I haven’t been over here in a while. Sorry about that.

  • @one_eared_batman - 

    No biggie, definitely not offended or anything haha.

  • great post, very touching! i think a lot of parents, at least asian ones are very conservative… and it’s hard for them to convey what or how they feel. anyway, keep up the interesting posts, you always have something interesting to read! :) and happy early holidays!

  • @charmed1alwayz - 

    Thanks! Yea, I don’t think my dad will ever be all talkie talkie w/ me, but my mom has gotten better over the years. I think I’m gonna break that trend when I have a child because I like to talk things out.

  • I envy this. In spite of not understanding your father, to be able to admit to loving him (even just in writing) is something I don’t know if I could do with my own.

    My father and I were close when I was younger, and then he became verbally abusive. I found out that he was an alcoholic. In spite of trying to have him in my life, it appears that my father wants nothing to do with me at present.

    May there be a day soon when you can tell your dad you love him,

    Taylor

  • @skylar_rose - 

    That’s awful . Despite not being the most kind-hearted person, I’m glad my dad isn’t deliberately mean to me and wants to support me. I’ll probably be a much more pessimistic person if our relationship was similar to yours and your dad.

  • wow…what an intense entry/dream.
    i think a lot of asian dads are like that though, and towards sons in particular, they have a more stern approach to parenting. i guess they want to set a good “head of the family” figure example for their sons to live by?

  • @Roadlesstaken - 

    haha yea, i’m very fortunate, my parents are quite open with me. of course my mom more than my dad, but yea i totally see how my dad is sort of like yours, not as quiet though. i hope whoever i marry and have kids with will be open and super affectionate with our kids :)

  • It is hard to have the friendship-type of relationship with Asian parents- especially the father. Often it gets easier as we get older since we are more able to see things from their perspective and understand their sacrifice. I never said I love you to my parents or have heard it from them. Usually it is I am worried about you or we really care about you. I think in order to get to know our parents, we must open up ourselves even if we think they will just be confused or bewildered by our comments. It’ll get easier as we get older!

  • @Roadlesstaken - 

    I think it’s because I’ve grown up to being so far away from him, it’s a habit now. After your blog, I will try to reconcile my relationship with my dad. Thanks for the entry!

  • @chineseboystyle - 

    Awesome, I hope it goes well!

  • Knowing that you need to cherish your parents is a step to telling your father you love him :) I did that with my mom before~ I woke up sobbing and then calling my mom while I was sobbing that I’m sorry I was a bratty lil girl back then hahaha and that I love her

  • It wasn’t until these past two years that I realized that my parents do love me. I was so mad that they always worked and weren’t there for me, but I am so thankful for their hard work now. Especially, because it means that I can go to college and pursue my dreams. They made so many sacrifices for me and I can’t believe it took me so long to finally figure it out.

    My parents also started to tell me that they loved me, and it was the weirdest feeling. I couldn’t understand it and I didn’t like to hear it (which was weird because growing up all I wanted was to be loved by them). When they would verbalize their love, I would just respond with an “okay” or “bye, I’ll be home soon”, etc.

    I generally don’t have a problem telling my friends that I love them, but when it came to my parents, I just couldn’t do it. Till this day, I still have a hard time saying it, but it’s not as hard as before. And I know, eventually, I’ll be able to tell them as freely as they tell me.

  • Yeah, I think a lot of Asian dads aren’t very connected to their children emotionally like mothers.  Asian mothers tend to have that very strong connection with their children.  At least from my perspective. 

    I’m glad you feel better about you dad btw.

    It’s also Baba in Mandarin.

  • Great blog entry! I really enjoyed reading this. I’m sorry that your father’s way of relating to you is not what you’d hope for… but, it’s very insightful for you to understand that it has had a lot to do with his upbringing. My friend always says to me…”We learn what we’ve lived.” It’s very true. But on a positive note~ you seem to want to change this pattern and relate to your {future} children in a different and more loving way. That’s awesome.

  • @jeNNi_RoX - 

    My dad definitely has that “head of the household” thing going for him. You know, all this time I’ve said I’ll be different from my dad, but as time goes by I’m noticing more and more things we have in common. It’s weird. Are you starting to notice that you have picked up some habits from your parents, or is it just me?

  • @charmed1alwayz - 

    Hmm I guess we should marry then. j/k

  • @litt0_h0nii - 

    I totally agree! As I’ve gotten older I found my mom and I connecting at a much higher level. Haha it’s so funny that I can easily say I really care about my parents but have the hardest time just saying I love you. It befuddles me.

  • @Casa_blanca_lilies - 

    Aww. Haha I wonder how my dad would react if I did the same thing to him. He’ll probably go “What’s wrong with you??” =P

  • @Syaoronsangel - 

    How old were you when they first started saying they loved you? Do you know what suddenly brought out that change?

  • @grinner08 - 

    Haha yea I knew it means the same in Mandarin, just didn’t feel like writing that since I’m mainly a Canto speaker. I’m guessing you speak Mandarin? I took Chinese 101 at college but I didn’t go any further because I had so much troubles with the 4 type of sounds you need to make. Idk why I suck at it.

  • @purpleheart423 - 

    @purpleheart423 - 

    Thanks for reading! Yea, I pretty much have accepted my dad the way he is and it’s fine. Perhaps the way he raised me was exactly the way I needed to be raised, or else I wouldn’t wanna be such a compassionate person now!

  • @Roadlesstaken - I speak it poorly.  Never took it in college.  You’re skills are probably better than mine.

  • @grinner08 - 

    Hahahaha I seriously doubt that. I’m embarrassingly horrible . Now if only they had a Cantonese class…

  • @Roadlesstaken - Well, you know there are many more people who speak Mandarin than Cantonese.  ;p

  • @Roadlesstaken - 

    lol yeah whenever my mom hears about things she doesn’t approve of she says i take after my dad, and then all the good stuff she’s like oh you definitely got that from me lolol. the apple doesn’t fall far from the tree!

  • wow.
    this post sent chills down my back..
    so touching >.<

    well, good luck with it! =)
    yoo can do it laa~
    xxx~

  • @jeNNi_RoX - 

    Sounds like my mom too. She tells me I get my good looks and strong hair from her =P

  • Hm, I got to say, so far from reading this entry and the one about the things you miss in a relationship, I am quite impress. And I find it to be so weird to read from random xangans because I rarely even read entries from my own friends.

    But anyhow, I agree with your entry about your dad. And I think it’s quite common for Asian parents to be somewhat the same in terms of their goals and expectations, BLAH BLAH BLAH.

    My dad is like that too. Sometimes it really does makes me wonder if my dad truly loved me. It’s quite a silly question to ask because of course we should know that our dad loves us otherwise we wouldn’t be here today using xanga like how we do. And another thing I seem to agree on is that the most I ever probably remember interacting with my dad is the time when we argue or the time when he would spank me. Following along the story about your dad, my grandpa [[my dad's dad]] left him and his mom when he was still young back in Laos. Therefore, he probably didn’t know what he was doing either. But somehow, he was about to take care of himself and his mom. And what do you know..? Here we are today in a small city in California of the US of A.

    Sometimes I would think he’s probably heartless because he doesn’t seem to show any signs of love at all. But like you said, my dad has his own way of showing his love by the doing things rather than say.

    And another point that I find to be quite true. I felt like I only had to listen to him only because I feel obligated to. And because he’s scary and intimidating, I never really rebelled him.

    I always thought that I would probably hate my dad for as long as I can remember. But ever since I started college, which was back in September, [[yes, I am indeed a freshmen at UCI]] I never knew how much my daddy meant to me. After a few months away from hom, I learned how to appreciate him more…and not just him but my mom, my brothers and my sisters.

    But somehow, I find it rather hard to say those 3 simple words to him. “I love you” isn’t something that I can just throw out like nothing. And I wish that someday I will be able to say that to him without being afraid. Wish that someday I’ll be able to build up on that courage and yes, I am working on it.

    Anyways, haha…that was a great post.

  • @Xiongy - 

    Wow, I think this has to be the longest comment I’ve ever receive haha. Not a bad thing though.

    Well first just wanna say thanks for being impress w/ my recent posts. It really does mean a lot when I read a comment like yours.

    Hmm, you sound like a female version of me haha. Your experience with your dad practically mirrors my experience. Really, don’t you ever wonder why it’s so hard to say those three words? I wonder why myself.

    Thank you for reading!

  • @Roadlesstaken - 

    Hmm…I would say that I was about…16/17 when they started saying it? Maybe even younger.

    I have no idea what brought on the change. All I can remember was one day, my mom said it while I was leaving the house and I didn’t know how to react.

  • @Syaoronsangel - 

    Ah very interesting. I would probably react the exact same way.

  • some gifts are priceless, its not big, but its something i do to show my parents i love them. -hugz!- XD try it!

  • @Lesonja - 

    I just got my parents new tennis rackets . I think I will start getting them gifts more often.

  • WOW! I didn’t get to read this post before….

    like some of your other readers, I have a parent who is somewhat like that. WOW WOW WOW! That dream was something!

  • @BrandNubian - 

    Mhmm, it really was. Way more intense than any recent dreams I’ve had.

  • oh i meant the hugs….but tennis is good. ^^

  • Hey,
    Very nice entry about your dad and I only cam across it now because of your most recent entry.
    Your dad seemed like my dad… He never talked to me as much either, we talked about school and what to get my mom on her birthday and on mothers day and all but, that was the only thing that came close to being personal.
    But you are lucky, you still have that chance to say I love You to him before it’s to late, unlike me.
    I think now if you take that risk of saying it and me it in the most passionate way, he will be able to understand why.
    =)

  • @O7219O - 

    Yea, my dad and I don’t even talk about stuff like school haha. Lately we have talked a little bit about work though, so that’s a step forward.

    Why is it too late for you to do the same?

  • @Roadlesstaken - 

    Well my dad past away three years tmrw… and the only time i did have that chance to say I love you was when he was in his casket sleeping in happiness. and the only way now is through prayer and stuff. But now I know that he is happy so I really do not worry about that cause I know that he is safe
    =)

  • Hey Alex, this one’s very nice.  Most traditional Chinese parents are like that, though I didn’t share the same blessing you have (because my parents have long been separated), I understand how you feel because most of my friends here living in a Chinese community has the same dilemma as yours, but you know, I think you should tell him how much you love him when you are ready :) It is really important that you let your parents know how much you love them, I really admire how hardworking your dad is, he really has proven so much of himself and to your beloved family, knowing that he was not able to experience a good life during his childhood years.. I can say he is a strong person.

    Let him know in any ways how much you love and appreciate him  I often kiss and hug my mom every now and then and tells her every night how much I love her, because you will never know when you won’t be able to do those things anymore, live a guilt-free life Alex haha!

    btw, I live in the Philippines.

  • @bloomblog - I think if I was a girl I would probably be able to do that, but as a guy it’s not as easy with Asian families to show love.  I just have to show it in my own special way

  • great post. and good luck.

  • Great story. This entry reminds me of my old posts which is hidden away. 

  • Sometimes, I think it is an Asian thing, when parents don’t tell you directly that they love you. However, if we reminiscence, we will see all the love they’ve given to us.  

  • @babixling - I definitely see that now =)

  • That post made me smile. im happy that in the end you know you loved him but that dream must have scared you..Your dad reminds me of my sis. she doesnt really show that she cares and its hard to read it even on her face. im still stuck wondering know if she  cares.

  • p.s i really do love tht song by joshua radin its my favorite

  • @boyhnc - You got good taste in music =)

  • I’ve never read this entry before… your old xanga blogs were a lot personable :)

  • @MzKeekz - I still write personal stuff!  I wrote about my family a lot in the past, which is partly why I haven’t wrote as much about them now.

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